This text is from a fellow from Brazil, its not mine ;)
TJ Curioso
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The Brazilian "Great Tribulation"
by TJ Curioso inhere in brazil, something new is happening.
ex-members denounce the jehovah's witnesses of religious discrimination.
the brazilian sebastiao ramos (ex-jw) is the responsible for complaint.
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The Brazilian "Great Tribulation"
by TJ Curioso inhere in brazil, something new is happening.
ex-members denounce the jehovah's witnesses of religious discrimination.
the brazilian sebastiao ramos (ex-jw) is the responsible for complaint.
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TJ Curioso
Hello,
Here in Brazil, something new is happening. Ex-members denounce the Jehovah's Witnesses of religious discrimination. The brazilian Sebastião Ramos (ex-JW) is the responsible for complaint. The brazilian court had rejected the accusations, but the protests continued:Apostate Outdoor: "The discrimination continue", " The Court rejects complaint against Jehovah's Witnesses"
See here:
http://exjehovahswitnessforum.yuku.com/topic/17464/t/The-Brazilian-Great-Tribulation.html
Other photos:
http://extestemunhasdejeova.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=6506
This is happening in the Northeast of Brazil, in Fortaleza, Ceará. The issue has gained wide repercution among the townspeople. Jehovah's Witnesses explain their doctrines with difficulties from door-to-door. They are saying they can talk with disfellowshipped, they do not just talk about spiritual matters. They're lying to people!
The Brazilian apostasy begins to gain strength!
Sorry for my bad English...http://exjehovahswitnessforum.yuku.com/topic/17464/t/The-Brazilian-Great-Tribulation.html
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Ray Franz Emails: Part 3 - Final
by brotherdan inhere is the final email i received from ray prior to his death.. [if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:worddocument> <w:view>normal</w:view> <w:zoom>0</w:zoom> <w:trackmoves /> <w:trackformatting /> <w:punctuationkerning /> <w:validateagainstschemas /> <w:saveifxmlinvalid>false</w:saveifxmlinvalid> <w:ignoremixedcontent>false</w:ignoremixedcontent> <w:alwaysshowplaceholdertext>false</w:alwaysshowplaceholdertext> <w:donotpromoteqf /> <w:lidthemeother>en-us</w:lidthemeother> <w:lidthemeasian>x-none</w:lidthemeasian> <w:lidthemecomplexscript>x-none</w:lidthemecomplexscript> <w:compatibility> <w:breakwrappedtables /> <w:snaptogridincell /> <w:wraptextwithpunct /> <w:useasianbreakrules /> <w:dontgrowautofit /> <w:splitpgbreakandparamark /> <w:dontvertaligncellwithsp /> <w:dontbreakconstrainedforcedtables /> <w:dontvertalignintxbx /> <w:word11kerningpairs /> <w:cachedcolbalance /> </w:compatibility> <w:browserlevel>microsoftinternetexplorer4</w:browserlevel> <m:mathpr> <m:mathfont m:val="cambria math" /> <m:brkbin m:val="before" /> <m:brkbinsub m:val="--" /> <m:smallfrac m:val="off" /> <m:dispdef /> <m:lmargin m:val="0" /> <m:rmargin m:val="0" /> <m:defjc m:val="centergroup" /> <m:wrapindent m:val="1440" /> <m:intlim m:val="subsup" /> <m:narylim m:val="undovr" /> </m:mathpr></w:worddocument> </xml><!
[endif] .
dear daniel,.
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TJ Curioso
I think that would be great, if there was a collection of personal writings of Ray, maybe a book or otherwise available. These emails convey much information and thoughts beneficial to all ex-Witnesses which is a shame they get lost and are scattered. Someone could bring them together so that everyone can be benefit from them.
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Ex JW, Fader and 'Conscious Class' Map
by Mickey mouse inhttp://maps.google.co.uk/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=utf8&msa=0&msid=116388890922269468211.0004938b3329a3f3d0927&ll=54.876607,1.538086&spn=13.940068,39.506836&z=5.
i've created a map in google maps for people to mark their location, you don't have to put your real identity if you don't want to.. you need to sign in with a google account, click the 'edit' button and then drop a marker on your location.
add a photo if you like!.
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TJ Curioso
I'm on the map :)
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"Birthdays rob the glory of God"
by sabastious inhumans are unique.
each one is unique in his/her own regard.
like your thumbprint, your life is unlike any life in existence.. .
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TJ Curioso
Debator, indeed, the very organization emphasizes several articles that customs that have lost their religious significance or pagan, can be practiced by us. So, I give you some examples of customs practiced today who have no religious meaning for many pagan centuries: - Alliance - Wedding cake - Applause - Birthdays - Baptism (the organization itself recognizes that this ritual predates Christianity) Of all which prohibits the Watchtower? Only birthdays. Why? In the Bible there is no law or principle that goes against this conclusion. The Christian must have the freedom to celebrate or not this kind of celebration today has no religious significance.
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DVD "JW's Faith In Action, part 1 Out of Darkness" Omits! Omits! Omits!
by Wasanelder Once ini've been watching the new dvd and it is a bull fest about russell.
i haven't even gotten half way and they already excluded one very important bit of information.
you'll recall that russell "lost" his faith and "turning away from church creeds and searching for truth, russell examined some leading oriental religions, only to find these unsatisfying".
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TJ Curioso
Please send me a link to download, please to:
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Ray Franz has had a stroke
by coffee_black injust setting the record straight.
there is another thread that notes a claim on wiki that said that ray has died.. he had a stroke yesterday, and is in the hospital.
he is still alive.
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TJ Curioso
My heart bleeds in pain at this loss. I believe that Raymond Franz followed in the footsteps of great men like William Tyndale, who although they may have comfortable lives and popular acclaim, they preferred to follow his conscience. It is because men like this, the History progresses, and many others follow they steps. Ray, God bless you and give you due reward, and to his dear wife who supported him and who now feel his loss. From Portugal, with Christian love ...
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RANDY WATTER'S DAD JUST DIED
by Mary inrandy watters, owner of freeminds.org father just died a couple of hours ago from pneumonia and alzheimers.
he was 86 years old.
as randy has been tireless in his efforts to help countless people come out of the wts, i would like to express my sincere condolences to him at this time.. .
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TJ Curioso
My sincere condolences to Randy and his family on their loss.
That the words of Jesus confort you:
"Do not marvel at this, because the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment."
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Paedophile used religion to keep abuse secret
by TJ Curioso inpaedophile used religion to keep abuse secrethull and east riding.
paedophile used religion to keep abuse secret.
tuesday, march 30, 2010, 06:30. a paedophile raped and sexually assaulted women and girls over a period of 40 years by using their religion to keep the abuse secret.. .
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TJ Curioso
Paedophile used religion to keep abuse secret
Hull and East Riding
Paedophile used religion to keep abuse secret
Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 06:30
A paedophile raped and sexually assaulted women and girls over a period of 40 years by using their religion to keep the abuse secret.
Despite one revealing it to the Jehovah's Witness elders, no help was given, a court heard.
Now George Arthur Cockerill, 78, has been jailed indefinitely after he admitted 19 rapes, four counts of sexual activity with a child, six counts of indecency with a child, one sex assault and two counts of indecency with a child.
Judge Roger Thorn QC, sitting at Hull Crown Court, said: "You have pleaded guilty to 32 serious counts that reflect your sexual depravity.
"The reality is that, from beginning to end, it is extended over 40 years. You have wasted your life and caused untold misery.
"As one victim said, you have stolen her childhood.
"You have been the most terrible hypocrite, passing yourself off as a law-abiding member of the community and using religion as a tool of subjection to control your victims.
"That is why I'm satisfied this remained a secret for so long."
Cockerill was sentenced to imprisonment for public protection for a minimum of six years.
He will not be released until the Parole Board believe he is no longer a danger.
Cockerill, of Hull, was also ordered to sign the Sex Offenders Register for life.
He allegedly had five victims, three of whom were subject to the convictions he pleaded guilty to and two more have made allegations against him.
Police believe there could be more.
In a statement read to the court, one victim said: "He took my childhood away."
Prosecutor David Dixon said: "He made one victim pray afterwards, linking the assault to the religion she had been devoted to for many years.
"She had pleaded with him not to do it.
"One girl tried to get the church elders to do something about him, but to no avail."
The attacks came to light after one woman told her doctor and then contacted the police.
The police then discovered more victims.
Cockerill has worked in the area as a butcher.
He served in the Army for eight years and has been involved with the Jehovah's Witnesses for a number of years.
Detective Constable Sam Crompton, from Humberside Police's public protection unit, said: "I would like to thank the complainants for their bravery in reliving such a difficult time in their lives and for having the strength and courage to assist us with the investigation."
A spokesperson for the Jehovah's Witnesses said: "We do not tolerate in any way that kind of behaviour. When this was brought to our attention Mr Cockerill was disfellowshipped and therefore he is no longer a Jehovah's Witness."
* The Mail's comments facility has been disabled on this story to prevent the potential identification of the victims in the case. http://christianchildabuse.blogspot.com/2010/03/paedophile-used-religion-to-keep-abuse.html http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2913972/Jehovahs-Witness-paedo-carried-out-40-years-of-rape.html http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/news/Paedophile-used-religion-abuse-secret/article-1953874-detail/article.html -
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Submission of Women
by TJ Curioso inwe all know what says ephesians 5:21-23 (nwt):.
21 be in subjection to one another in fear of christ.
22 let wives be in subjection to their husbands as to the lord, 23 because a husband is head of his wife as the christ also is head of the congregation, he being a savior of [this] body.. others translations like kjv, read something like the nwt.. in the other day, i cross with some information in the net (youtube and other pages of religious ministers) about the subject of women's subjection to the men (husband) and saw that some people say that in the original greek the word subjection don't appear in the vers.
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TJ Curioso
Can anyone comment on the grammatical issue of the Greek text in question?
Pleeeese…